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Okay, I can't take it any longer.
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Dear sir: If you're using the term 'emasculated' to describe why something is worse happening to a male than to a female, you already don't get it. The term 'emasculate' is almost never used in regards to females, and do you know why? Because one of the meanings of the term is 'to effeminate'. That's right. To make like a woman.
Women can't be emasculated, because they already start, in the sort of culture that uses the term emasculate in this sense, in that position of terrifying weakness. A woman. Weak. Sexually vulnerable, by very definition. Where having finally fought for the social freedom to protect themselves from acquaintance rape in all its many horrifying forms, now we hear "Well, of course now there'll be some hostility." Now? Dear god, man, do you know nothing about the last twenty years and their story of pain and shame for women who dared to speak against accusers? It's not 'now'. It's 'always'. And one of the major excuses men have always had is "Well, she could be lying."
I observe, of course, that his tagline is 'conservative'.
No, a woman is not generally regarded as less of a woman for being raped. She may no longer want to be one, but too bad for her, huh? There's no where further down to go than being a woman, gender identity wise, according to that worldview.
She may be regarded as a liar, a slut, easy, a vindictive bitch. She may, thanks to the culture of shame creeps like you protect, even question her own virtue in the matter. Did she fight enough? Would he have stopped if she said 'no' one more time? Maybe if she hadn't worn that dress. Or had that second beer.
But no, men like you would never let her escape from being sex on two legs just because she'd been forced into sex once or twice.
Now, I agree with you on one thing, sir. Men being raped should not be a secret shame they can never confess happened.
But you know something? The way to get women to accuse their attackers of rape isn't to tell them "OMG, NOW NO MAN WILL WANT TO HAVE HER, SHE'S BEEN TAINTED," and it's not to tell men, "OMG, IF THAT HAPPENS TO YOU, NO ONE WILL RESPECT YOU BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN MADE INTO A WOMAN."
Also, there have been plenty of crude jokes made about female rape. Sorry to break this to you. Hell, look at the thread that led up to it.
Okay, I can't take it any longer.
Two posts on rpg.net
RHJunior
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thing is.....
"Men can be raped too" ignores that there are crucial mental and emotional differences between the victims.
A woman who is raped is horribly violated and dehumanized by her attacker... but in Western culture she does not, thank God, suffer any degradation of her womanhood or her sexuality/gender identity (she may suffer from sexual dysfunction, but we are talking about something else entirely here.) Society generally responds with sympathy and compassion, regarding her as a victim and a hero for surviving.
A man who is raped is dehumanized... and emasculated. His sexuality and gender identity are trashed, and (unless he is still considered a child or adolescent) is greeted with a degree of unspoken contempt.
The concept of a man being raped is a subject of vulgar derision and even played for comedic value. How many "dropped the soap" and "Deliverance" jokes do YOU know? How many comedy movies feature a scene where a disliked character is subjected to sexual assault for laughs (like, oh, every single "Police Academy" movie?)
Because like it or not, women are permitted to be weak, but men are not. And being unable to prevent someone from using you sexually is a sign of weakness.
I feel obligated to point out that the pro lifer's argument is that the father, not the child, committed the crime, and should be the one to recieve the death penalty.
And I'm sure there are rape victims in Western civ who are recieved poorly--- after all, we live in a system now where there have been cases of women who have lied about rape in order to get revenge against a man, cover their own licentiousness, or obtain some other low and base goal, where hookers accuse their johns of rape to get revenge for them skipping on the bill, where a college feminist group posted a giant billboard with the names of every male student under the heading "potential rapists," where a woman can charge a man with rape even if she engages in sex with him voluntarily, and merely changes her mind halfway through... where one prominent "feminist" is on record stating that all sex within the bounds of marriage is morally equivalent to rape..... in such circumstances, some amount of hostile cynicism is unsurprising.
But these are the exceptions that prove the rule: this sort of abuse is possible precisely because western, judeo christian society is driven to protect women, to venerate the female victim, and to hold them up as objects of pity, compassion, and even hero worship....
Contrast with Islamic society, where women who are raped are stoned to death as harlots-- or have their throats slit by their fathers and brothers in "honor" killings.
And you misunderstand my point about the victim and their loss. A female rape victim is not regarded as less of a woman for what happened.....
But a MALE rape victim is, de facto, regarded as "unmanned."
The fact that male rape even has to be mentioned so deliberately is, again, the exception that proves the rule. Mention a woman who has been raped, she becomes a mascot that inspires a crusade to protect all women. Mention a man who has been raped, and you only shame him.... because it reveals to the world that he wasn't masculine enough to ward off his assault.
Dear sir: If you're using the term 'emasculated' to describe why something is worse happening to a male than to a female, you already don't get it. The term 'emasculate' is almost never used in regards to females, and do you know why? Because one of the meanings of the term is 'to effeminate'. That's right. To make like a woman.
Women can't be emasculated, because they already start, in the sort of culture that uses the term emasculate in this sense, in that position of terrifying weakness. A woman. Weak. Sexually vulnerable, by very definition. Where having finally fought for the social freedom to protect themselves from acquaintance rape in all its many horrifying forms, now we hear "Well, of course now there'll be some hostility." Now? Dear god, man, do you know nothing about the last twenty years and their story of pain and shame for women who dared to speak against accusers? It's not 'now'. It's 'always'. And one of the major excuses men have always had is "Well, she could be lying."
I observe, of course, that his tagline is 'conservative'.
No, a woman is not generally regarded as less of a woman for being raped. She may no longer want to be one, but too bad for her, huh? There's no where further down to go than being a woman, gender identity wise, according to that worldview.
She may be regarded as a liar, a slut, easy, a vindictive bitch. She may, thanks to the culture of shame creeps like you protect, even question her own virtue in the matter. Did she fight enough? Would he have stopped if she said 'no' one more time? Maybe if she hadn't worn that dress. Or had that second beer.
But no, men like you would never let her escape from being sex on two legs just because she'd been forced into sex once or twice.
Now, I agree with you on one thing, sir. Men being raped should not be a secret shame they can never confess happened.
But you know something? The way to get women to accuse their attackers of rape isn't to tell them "OMG, NOW NO MAN WILL WANT TO HAVE HER, SHE'S BEEN TAINTED," and it's not to tell men, "OMG, IF THAT HAPPENS TO YOU, NO ONE WILL RESPECT YOU BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN MADE INTO A WOMAN."
Also, there have been plenty of crude jokes made about female rape. Sorry to break this to you. Hell, look at the thread that led up to it.
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